Newsgroups: linux.redhat.install Date: 2004-06-07 03:00:04 PST
I am running RedHat9 on Intel (Pentium 4) and think about switching to Fedora. May I install FC2 right away or do I have to install FC1 first and the upgrade to FC2? Is FC2 for 32bit processor or only for 64bit?
> to Fedora. May I install FC2 right away
Yes.
> Is FC2 for 32bit processor or only for 64bit?
FC2 is 32bit. There is a special 64bit edition coming (or possibly already available, but I don't know much more about it).
Rex
If you are running RH 9 without any problems , then **DON'T** install FC2 !!! , it's a load of crap !
I had RH 9 running really good and then I did a fresh install with FC 2 about 6 days ago and I have had nothing but problems !!! Can't get my GF 4 MX video card to work with the nvidia driver , can't get NFS working properly , can't get samba to work properly , can't get access to the Gnone samba utility , I have had problems with slow disk reads , stalling on boot ups and shutdowns , mainly with NFS and CUPS and the TERM signal , sluggish response when I access the BIOS at boot up ( yeah that IS strange ) , some apps don't open when you click on them in the menu ( I installed everything ) and to frigging top it all off , I just downloaded 80 Mb of updates on a 56 K dial up line and the frigging U2Date package installation has locked up on me just when it was about to install all the downloaded packages.
I had a blank Up2Date package installation screen sitting on the desktop and the frigging hour glass spinning around for the last 10 minutes , I shut the thing down and now I can't even re-open the Up2Date package installer to retrieve the updates .
FC 2 is just a piece of crap and a poor man's version of RH 9 , even some of the file and desktop utilities are tedious and crappy. I have spent the last 4 days trying to get FC 2 to work , and I have been using linux on and off for a while and know how to configure a lot of the system files , but this crap I have on my machine , it has had too many different problems to from a wide variety of areas to just be a configuration problem , it's the OS itself that's full of bugs.
I have just now tried to log out of Gnome , and even that has locked up on me.
My machine is a Intel 866 Mhz CPU , 512 Mb of Ram.
FC 2 is a piece of crap and a Lemon !
Sandgroper
> FC 2 is a piece of crap and a Lemon !
Yeh.. I had FC1 running real nice here, all I wanted was to get RealPlayer going.. was working on that, and other plugins (got flash and java going).. then I went ahead and "upgraded" with the four FC2 disks. What a mistake that has turned out to be!
Error applets on going into Gnome, "XKB cannot start.." etc (apparently it sees two keyboards, pretty funny, seeing as how I, like billions of others, have only one attached to my machine, the same one that's been there through many OSs with *no* problems), hard crashes when using the "search for files" feature, no changes when I try to make little configuration changes here and there.. all stuff that I had *no* problem with in FC1 before this "upgrade."
Ah, well, live and learn.. it's basically beta, I guess. :)
I'm going to have to just format this out and go back to the FC1 that I was doing well with (struggled with the Mozilla plugins, but did learn a thing or two, thanks to help in these usenet groups and Google).
Say la veeeeeeeeeeeee.. :)
Happy Bag
> Ah, well, live and learn.. it's basically beta, I > guess. :) > > I'm going to have to just format this out and go back > to the FC1 ...
Yeah , I was quite happy with RH 9 , I had just got it to the stage of it running smoothly , and then stupid me , I wanted to upgrade to what was supposed to be a faster kernel , and all I have had is problems , I would go back to RH 9 if I could get all the updates to kernel 2.4.20-30.9 .
I have been thinking about scrapping FC 2 altogether and installing FC 1 , at least I know that the kernel is fairly good as it is shipped with 2.4.22-1.2115
Sandgroper
> I have been thinking about scrapping FC 2 altogether and installing FC 1 , > at least I know that the kernel is fairly good as it is shipped with > 2.4.22-1.2115
a-HEM .. well, now.. I've not yet gone back to FC1, opting to fool around with FC2 a bit more.. I finally did get all of the plugins to work properly, inclucing RealPlayer8, Java, and Shockwave Flash. That makes me happy. .. however:
Whenever I go into Gnome I get an error applet about my keyboard. Plus, the CD player doesn't work at all; it just sits there not recognizing the CD I put in. The test sound works for the sound card, so I'm puzzled about the CD player, it shows nothing of the CD content, etc.
Any ideas as to how to proceed to correct the keyboard applet error message (which only comes up in Gnome, my favorite environment, and not in KDE) and the CD problems would be appreciated very much.
Happy Bag
> Error applets on going into Gnome, "XKB cannot start.." etc
#cd /etc/X11/xkb/rules ln -s xorg xfree86 ln -s xorg.lst xfree86.lst
probably one of these links is already there, but I don't remember which. The other must be made manually. I used strace to sort this out.
I have another issue with gnome: When I make a new user, then it works. When I work as "peter" then nautilus crashes. The same happens when I start nautilus as root and when I goto /home/peter.
I removed all non dotted files from my homedir but this had no effect. Started nautilus from command-line, but it doesnt give errormessages, only a bug-report-window appeared. Output of strace nautilus was not helpful for me.
Could not find out the reason why, and I am a very happy KDE-User now ;-)
I had a win4lin Kernel in FC1 when I upgraded for FC2. FC2 did not update the kernel correctly and refused to boot after upgrading. It did not copy initrd. It copied the kernel, but it did not change grub.conf correctly. I did not know this, because the system did not boot anymore and I coulnt see it.
Then I tried to make a fresh installation and it refused to make a new logical partition. (All my primary partitions are used) Then I partioned with acronis. Then FC2 barfed about double disk-labels and installation terminated. I restarted acronis and corrected the disklabels. Then FC2 installed, but it did not find the previous installation and I did'nt remember the disklabels. Then I booted Knoppix and compared the old and the new /boot partition and made the necessary corrections.
Then it booted,but I got the above mentioned problems with gnome and nautilus.
Updating required about 10 reboots and 1 1/2 days, and I am a happy FC2 user now ;-)
I believe, upgrading will only work -if at all- for a very vanilla system and I don't recommend it.
If possible, do a fresh installation.
peter